(8) Big Modern! - 09/19/2025 vs. (9) Thatch - 05/10/2025

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Madalena #8

Big Modern!

πŸ“… Sep 19, 2025

πŸ“ Michigan Lottery Amphitheatre at Freedom Hill, Sterling Heights, MI

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Votes: 225 57.7%
Madalena #9

Thatch

πŸ“… May 10, 2025

πŸ“ El Ganzo Oasis, San Jose Del Cabo

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Votes: 165 42.3%

Total votes: 390

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πŸ’¬ Community Discussion

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mugkeyftlt
mugkeyftlt

1 month ago

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Neither of these are my favorite. I probably won't listen to either of these again. I'm voting BM.

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spun cookie
spun cookie

1 month ago

Likes 0

There have been plenty of thatches that have left my face melted. I don't remember this being one of them. After relistening, big modern was fun.

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thunderbird2247
thunderbird2247

1 month ago

Likes 1

Pretty much agree with Chris Newcomb down below.

Im usually a melodic jam guy and this BM does a great job of it, but it sounded like a typical goose jam


This Thatch is unique and teetered that line of chaos while keeping me interested. Im not usually a dissonant jam guy but love how this goes from dissonant to shredding peak so beautifully.

Uniqueness>typical goose jam

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Honolulu Blue and Silver Rising
Honolulu Blue and Silver Rising

1 month ago

Likes 0

The Thatch is the most intense and ferocious playing of the year. Absolutely unhinged! Up against a very good Big Modern that I think is the 2nd best BM of the year behind 2/15/25 and gets a bit too much credit from Big Pod. Thatch is my vote

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Honeybee
Honeybee

1 month ago

Likes 0

I like this BIg Mondo but again, it’s not the best representation of this song and that Thatch is fantastic! Huge Mexico vibes and is so fun.
Seeding is ridiculous. I appreciate the work they do…. But for the love of Goose, come up with something better guys please

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basepi
basepi

1 month ago

Likes 0

Melodic is my preference. That Thatch was incredible, but the BM is much more my speed.

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Ads
Ads

1 month ago

Likes 0

Two totally different sounds between BM slow burn and Thatch cacophony. Too slow of burn for me and not much of a real jam from all four whereas Thatch has everybody going. Gimme Thatch

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Chris Newcomb
Chris Newcomb

1 month ago

Likes 1

Of all the dissonant jams they have played over the last year and a half or so, I find this Thatch to be the most intentional and coherent of the bunch and the result is intense and captivating. Get much more from it than this BM, which, although fun and exciting and well-played, does not really get anywhere too special or unique IMO.

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Gooseyphish
Gooseyphish

1 month ago

Likes 0

It's wild to see 2 different goose camps here, people who prefer the noodley dissonant stuff vs the more melodic thought out stuff. I think this Big Modern! Is one of my favorites of the year

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Alumni Blues
Alumni Blues

1 month ago

Likes 0

Thatch is unlistenable. In my humble opinion.

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Axelarris
Axelarris

1 month ago

Likes 0

The seeding of this bracket is fucking bananas. Gotta fix it somehow next year. BM!

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Andrew Duddy
Andrew Duddy

1 month ago

Likes 0

Justice for Gonzo Your Direction.

I’m voting for anything Gonzo to protest its absence, but also because Gonzo was the greatest time ever.
This thatch was wonderful too… very strong Stash vibes

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Cptn_Incredible
Cptn_Incredible

1 month ago

Likes 0

GOAT BMO ALERT!!!

I feel like every time I listened to this jam it moved a little higher up my list until it ultimately ended up at my #6 overall pick. Probably started out closer to an 8-seed than a 2-seed for me, but keeps aging like a fine wine. It really is that freaking good! Damned near a perfect jam. It's not going to be the JOTY but it is leagues beyond this Thatch. Which is wild and energetic and fun, and comes with the added boost from being one of the only truly impressive jams from the Cabo run. But this really shouldn't even be close. BMo for the M'Fing win!!!

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Los Feliz Ghost
Los Feliz Ghost

1 month ago

Likes 0

BM all the way. It isn't the GOAT BM to me. (I think my fav BM is Grand Rapids tbh.) But I still had it as a 6-seed (no. 24 overall), so I think it's under-seeded here. It's such a fun jam. Explosive and rewarding first half, dreamy second half. Not a dull note the entire time.

This Thatch didn't make my top 64. I respect why others liked it. But I've never found myself drawn to the jams that sound like '94 Phish unless the '94-Phish section is, like, prelude to something else (as it is in jams like MKE Hungersite and GR Madhuvan). If the entire jam is dissonant experimentation, I don't find myself wanting to relisten. I respect the effort and the willingness to experiment, though.

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isaac
isaac

1 month ago

Likes 0

I don’t get the hype of this BM, the peaceful flow through the last 5 minutes are really atmospheric and unique but the majority of the jam is just a pretty plain BM. Ultimately, I feel it doesn’t do enough to overthrow this chaotic and unhinged Thatch.

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Seekers_pt_Deuce
Seekers_pt_Deuce

1 month ago

Likes 0

Big Mo easily on this one - nice Thatch, but not in the same ballpark

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DuvalGoose
DuvalGoose

1 month ago

Likes 0

This should easily be BM

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Basty
Basty

1 month ago

Likes 0

BM! by a fair margin. Its wild how close this is at 1pmpacific.



Maybe you should listen once more before voting?

:kiss:

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mister.e
mister.e

1 month ago

Likes 0

Thatch is straight ⛽️ Silly goofiness exploration into straight shredding. Come on people do the right thing!

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Pistol495
Pistol495

1 month ago

Likes 0

Had this Thatch way higher with the total chaos of the first half of the jam to the completely electrified ending to Gonzo. It deserved a higher seed and is better than this BM

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Y3ti
Y3ti

1 month ago

Likes 0

This is a super tough one! I would be happier with either, but I like the spaced-out section of Thatch.

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CariniJams710
CariniJams710

1 month ago

Likes 0

BIG MODERN OR BUST!

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Uncle Ebinezer
Uncle Ebinezer

1 month ago

Likes 0

Love how this modern gets red hot and cools off at just the right moment. Any more or less and it would've been felt off, they nailed it. The thatch is noodly for the first 75% and then just typical for the last leg. One of my least favorite jams in the tournament. Gimme Modern all the way!

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CameToPlay
CameToPlay

1 month ago

Likes 0

It's hard to overstate how poorly these are seeded. Modern by a mile.

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Moosemas
Moosemas

1 month ago

Likes 0

This Thatch is the real JOTY despite what this "poll" says

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Wysteria_Hysteria
Wysteria_Hysteria

1 month ago

Likes 0

this Modern! mightve been my favorite jam to rediscover. Absolute heater

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Phishinthesea
Phishinthesea

1 month ago

Likes 0

Genuinely don’t understand the love for this thatch. Just because it gets dissonant and weird doesn’t make it a good jam

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The Principal
The Principal

1 month ago

Likes 0

As much as I want to vote for this β€œhometown” Big Modern from Detroit, the Cabo Thatch just rips too hard not to vote it… and hope for the upset. It’s not like either survives the next round, but good grief… this Mexican Thatch is spicy!

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BModest
BModest

1 month ago

Likes 0

BM is under ranked IMO and gets my vote. I had it ranked 20th, this Thatch was 33 on my list.

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Neal
Neal

1 month ago

Likes 0

FACE!

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Silver Fox Rising
Silver Fox Rising

1 month ago

Likes 0

I can immediately find 30 other versions of Thatch I'd prefer to listen to over this one. Big Modern! an easy deserving pick here.

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Julius Organos
Julius Organos

1 month ago

Likes 0

This Big Modern! is so good. A personal top 5 jam of 2026. The one from Grand Rapids in February was great, but this one goes way deeper

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BorneDustWystHoff
BorneDustWystHoff

1 month ago

Likes 0

Hard pick for me. I think Thatch has more quality improv in total than BM. That final section though is incredibly good though and some of my favorite improv of the year. The peak in thatch is also INSANE.

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ATBoz
ATBoz

1 month ago

Likes 0

This Thatch = most underrated jam of 2025

But, I do love this Modern as well

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Dad Dalley
Dad Dalley

1 month ago

Likes 0

This GOAT Modern! is so good that I could see it taking out the MKE Madhuvan. Not even the best Thatch from May.

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JNeimer
JNeimer

1 month ago

Likes 0

I respect the Thatch but this BM absolutely rules and IMO should be much higher than an 8 seed. BM it is.

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Canyon Dan
Canyon Dan

1 month ago

Likes 0

A criminally under seeded BM vs one of the most unhinged jams of the year. Thatch is solid but this vote wasn’t hard. Goat BM takes it.

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@6R0M7
@6R0M7

1 month ago

Likes 0

GOAT BMo! vs. an overranked Thatch.

Come on in, for a real good time.

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Matt for Math
Matt for Math

1 month ago

Likes 0

Like this Big Modern almost as much as the Grand Rapids one. Thatch gets to trainwreck territory iirc- havent revisited it since hearing it the first time bc theres so much better goose out there.

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ry_storm
ry_storm

1 month ago

Likes 0

JUMP SHOT CAVEAT GOAT BIG MODERN!

I love this Thatch and think both of these are crazy underseeded but the drippy psychedelia of the last chunk of Big Modern! really does it for me.

FACE

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teddeadjed
teddeadjed

1 month ago

Likes 0

Generally I'm more of a Modern fan than Thatch, and I love how this Modern develops and soars but I feel like the jamming in Thatch was dynamic, twisted and unique enough to keep Gonzo alive for another round.

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